Is the xingu sp. (snow leopard) ray a humerosa
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I think I have seen the picture. I thought the same thing myself.
However I asked Oliver Lucanus about the xingu ray before and he told me that they are the same species as Brazilian Obignyi (or scobina). If I can remember properly he told me they come from the same generally area of the Xingu basin, however scobina inhabits the shallower parts of the water and the white rays comes from deepers parts.
I don't know how much truth is behind this, however I do trust Oliver's opinion a lot.
However I asked Oliver Lucanus about the xingu ray before and he told me that they are the same species as Brazilian Obignyi (or scobina). If I can remember properly he told me they come from the same generally area of the Xingu basin, however scobina inhabits the shallower parts of the water and the white rays comes from deepers parts.
I don't know how much truth is behind this, however I do trust Oliver's opinion a lot.
rudy
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No it is part of the leopoldi complex.......lol
skynoch
Moderator
I do remember him saying they come from deep water but I've seen pics of them hanging out in the shallows. I know Oliver forget more than I'll know but there is way more similarities in the R067 pic than in my scobinas and xingu. But then again before I had my scobinas I thought one of my xingu was a scobina.
Sometimes I get so lost on whats what?
rudy
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Just referring to the MFK BS.
I am very glad I have matured to the point where we can actually discuss things and not be childish like those on other sites. All we have to do now is get rid of Matt.....Just kidding buddy
skynoch
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I just got to thinking and I think Humerosa are classified under Orbs so maybe that pic is the xingu sp. ?
Yeah, there is a lot of confusion regarding orbs. Eventually someone will do the little bit of extra work and look at enough of them closely to figure out what is what. There's still a lot of people out there who still consider scobina just one of the many "brazilian variants" of orbignyi.
I must disagree to some extent. I can see how they can fall into a grouping along with orbs. Much like how many Hoplias species once considered lacerdae are now split up into a bunch of species (curupira, intermedius, australis, etc), however they are still considered under the umbrella name of "lacerdae wolf fish". Yet I still think species such as scobina, xingu, etc. are unique enough to be considered their own species.
It's all up to debate I guess!
I must disagree to some extent. I can see how they can fall into a grouping along with orbs. Much like how many Hoplias species once considered lacerdae are now split up into a bunch of species (curupira, intermedius, australis, etc), however they are still considered under the umbrella name of "lacerdae wolf fish". Yet I still think species such as scobina, xingu, etc. are unique enough to be considered their own species.
It's all up to debate I guess!