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thanks mike! how many pups did you end up getting??

sweet set up bret!

i think mine just had a lot of stress she had the 2 pups then a day after she had a couple pellets and then today when my friend was over he saw her in the middle of birthing a still born. congrats btw 4 pups!!

well thats good to know! lol was starting to think i had a problem lol

thanks mike, now i can actually look forward to taking the wife and kid to disneyland, peoples choice awards and the ducks game. Weird how i was more looking forward to the pups then the vacay lol

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here is the stillborn.

thanks mike will do. ill post a picture of the stillborn as soon as my buddy emails me

he saw 3/4 of the body dangling and when the pup came out her stomach was squished. he is going to email me a photo then ill post it up for you guys to check it out

well my friend just called me he said he came over today and found a still born still stuck in the mother and the mother is looking stressed and not eating. Do you guys know how long till mom starts to act normal again and is it often that she would give birth then 2 days later give birth again...

parents im guessing are around 4 years the female i would say is 24"?? these were Scotts rays so maybe he can chime in?

thanks guys i was hoping for the pups to be pure leos but my favorite hybrid conveniently happens to be hen x leo. Might end up keeping one of them.

At least it happened before my vacation. Now im hoping my friend can get them eating. They came out pretty big maybe 4 inches they are in an nls bucket

54 days since ive seen movement and nothing yet and im gone in the 5th its getting close what would you guys do?

i hope so too, she has gotten really big in the last 2 weeks

a pearlxleo or henxleo would look sick, but im hoping its a pure leo.

thanks chen super excited!

yah i definitely saw movement on both sides quite often so im pretty sure theres at least 2 in there

hey scott! its not quite working out yet! i was hoping she would have her pups by now im gone for a couple weeks on vacay second week of january so hopefully soon!!

the parents are around 3-4 years old the female is about 24"?? its not quite confirmed on being leo pups yet. when i got this pair off scott the days were too close so it can posibly be leoxpearl, leo x hen or pure leos. we'll have to just wait and see.