Tips for choosing arowana

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Could anyone please give me some good tips on what to look for when choosing between 6 inch red arowana. Some are lighter background and some are darker. I know to look for good eyes- no droopy eyes,good jaws,and large fins. Thanks for any suggestions.:)
 
Could anyone please give me some good tips on what to look for when choosing between 6 inch red arowana. Some are lighter background and some are darker. I know to look for good eyes- no droopy eyes,good jaws,and large fins. Thanks for any suggestions.:)

spoon head..6" should be able to c the spoony head..for colour wise is pretty much depend on the gene.....nothing much u can c in a 6" red...
 
Personally I would put a lot of importance in the farm the fish comes from. If you trust the farm the fish should be fine no matter what. I remember my first Asian aro was a Xien Leng. It was the last one out of a batch of something like 50 fish. It looked okay to me and so I bought it - even though it was the last pick. The fish went on to be gorgeous as an adult. So, I guess I am biased toward buying the name of a fish farm - at least when the fish is a small size. Different story for a mature fish... :)

Asside from what I state above, one warning would be to beware swim bladder issues; make sure the fish swims horizontally and does not hide at ground level or swim at any kind of angle.

In Singapore at Extreme Arowana I saw some "blood red" Sianlons that had no real colour development at all (at 8-9 inches), while there were a batch of "chilli reds" from a Kalimantan farm that had beautiful orange rims on their scales, continuing all the way to the pearls at the back near the tail. If I had to choose between the two fish at that time, the coloured fish would have won, but who is to say it would be the better fish long term?

Good luck - sounds like you might be getting close to taking the plunge! :)
 
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Personally I would put a lot of importance in the farm the fish comes from. If you trust the farm the fish should be fine no matter what. I remember my first Asian aro was a Xien Leng. It was the last one out of a batch of something like 50 fish. It looked okay to me and so I bought it - even though it was the last pick. The fish went on to be gorgeous as an adult. So, I guess I am biased toward buying the name of a fish farm - at least when the fish is a small size. Different story for a mature fish... :)

Asside from what I state above, one warning would be to beware swim bladder issues; make sure the fish swims horizontally and does not hide at ground level or swim at any kind of angle.

In Singapore at Extreme Arowana I saw some "blood red" Sianlons that had no real colour development at all (at 8-9 inches), while there were a batch of "chilli reds" from a Kalimantan farm that had beautiful orange rims on their scales, continuing all the way to the pearls at the back near the tail. If I had to choose between the two fish at that time, the coloured fish would have won, but who is to say it would be the better fish long term?

Good luck - sounds like you might be getting close to taking the plunge! :)


thanks theo, i guess if you have trust on the farms where you r fish is coming from then you need not to worry for they can grow to be a beautiful speciment as stated here by theo(personal experience counts)...;)
 
I would just save some more money then buy a 10inch fish its much safer to buy a fish at thats size

you are correct... buy if you don't have the cash and a cheaper and smaller fish is readily available for the taking then as theo said find out where it's coming from/farm etc...:cool:
 
it works out cheaper in the long run to buy a larger fish that already shows promise

i have had 4 x xbacks in the past and wasted 6 yrs growing them only to find they didnt turn out the way i wanted

all farms have good fish and bad fish at 6inch its to much of a gamble if you are going to get the fish of your dreams or not

at 10inch you have a good idear how the fish is going to turn out
 
it works out cheaper in the long run to buy a larger fish that already shows promise

i have had 4 x xbacks in the past and wasted 6 yrs growing them only to find they didnt turn out the way i wanted

all farms have good fish and bad fish at 6inch its to much of a gamble if you are going to get the fish of your dreams or not

at 10inch you have a good idear how the fish is going to turn out

very good point, but the price between a 6" & 10" is different....:D
 
very good point, but the price between a 6" & 10" is different....:D

the price is diffrent yes

but if you add up the price of the food and 2yrs of care it takes to grow an aro only to be disapointed after 2yrs and need to sell and start over the price you spend on a 10inch aro with good promise is cheap compaired to a 6inch super red or xback you may need to sell after 2yrs

it all depends what you want from a aro and how high your standards are :D
 
the price is diffrent yes

but if you add up the price of the food and 2yrs of care it takes to grow an aro only to be disapointed after 2yrs and need to sell and start over the price you spend on a 10inch aro with good promise is cheap compaired to a 6inch super red or xback you may need to sell after 2yrs

it all depends what you want from a aro and how high your standards are :D

yea....this is like one kind of gamble when coming to buy 6" aro....due to the price between a 6" & 10" here in malaysia sometimes can goes up to double. So in this case, the source of the aro become very important. If you know that the juvenile aro is coming from superb brooder, then you can gamble on the fries (noted that the fries might not 100% as good as the brooder, but the percentage to get good quality aro is high)....
 
the problem is you can only garantee the male of the pair as he holds the eggs/fry

the female no one can say 100%
 
Having viewed dozens of breeding ponds, I can say most aro farmers are pretty technical when they stock their ponds. They make sure that the stock is ALL top quality. If the farm is big enough, they can actually practise line breeding, which is how the Gold Heads, King arowana, etc. have come about.
Some farms (even large, supposedly "reputable" farms), buy fish on the open market or from other farms for resale purposes. This is actually pretty common, especially around Chinese New Year when stock at many farms is low. I would prefer to buy from a farm that does not do this and only sells what it breeds.

But even here there can be a problem.

The problem occurs when the breeding stock approaches the end of its reproductive age. That is when the farm needs to replace its breeders. This is when you here people say "Oh, such and such a farm USED to be good; now I hear they are raising fish of lower quality than a few years ago." If the farm is big and reputable, it will have made provisions for this transition by raising its own breeders for future use; if the farm is smaller and less well run, they will buy fish on the open market. If they do the latter, that can really mess things up. Without knowing the parentage of the fish, such farms risk that a certain percentage of fry will grow up to be poor fish due to genetics (i.e. if SR parent fish were produced by banjar male female SR cross, a certain percentage of fry will take on banjar characteristics).

In chatting with Mr.Kan, he gave me advice for selling fish in future. It would be to raise up a batch of quality fry and then scale the prices according to how the fish develop. Going forward I might give this a try, though I must confess I am nervous to have so much invested in live stock.

In the end I think purchasing an Asian aro is a very personal decision. Some people have the big $ to just go out and buy the best. Some of the "instant tanks" I have seen photos of from Beijing fit this model. There are collectors out there who will spend over $100,000 by hiring someone to set up a stunning aro com tank for them. Then there are more "normal" collectors who start basically from the ground up, piecing their collection together on their own, suffering failures and meeting success along the way. I fit in this latter category. For me "it is the journey, not the destination" that is the most fun. If I can build my own aro com tank from scratch and learn lots as I do it, well, that is the real pay off and accomplishment I think. Anyone can go out and spend the big bucks to put together an "instant tank; only the dedicated arofanatic will invest the time and energy - and risk failure - to do it on their own.

Yet another way of looking at the issue of how a person stock's their tank (juvenile fish from good farm versus older fish with confirmed characteristics), would be the old "beginner, intermediate, advanced" approach. Those hobbyists who have already been down the road of assembling a tank from the ground up might not be into doing it twice; kind of a case of "been there, done that". Such a hobbyist might be more willing to just skip a few steps and buy an established fish right away. A different approach would most likely be taken by people with less experience. Thus, as I get ready to start my first aro community tank, I am looking to do it from scratch, as befits my experience level I guess?

A final word on choosing juvenile fish from a good farm versus buying older more established fish: Keep in mind the premium the Japanese are willing to pay for baby fish from certain farms. Munjul Prima F4 and F5 spring to mind. Munjul is able to demand a premium price for these fish at small size due to the serious collectors knowing that there is a very high chance the fish will turn out to be of very high quality. Other lesser known Indonesian farms or recent start ups don't command this kind of respect - and can't demand very high prices either... :)
 
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