Ah come on now. That was the easy way out
I didn't know xbackgolden works for a aro farm? Oh xbackgolden do you know if farms keep like a geneology on the aros they breed that can be traced back from F1 generation?
Nope. The arowana industry isn't as high tech as it seems really Anyway, sorry to disappoint you. all the xbacks you see, are all acutally hybrids the true blue crossback never looked the way that we are used to seeing them. So no one really knows how the F1 looks like.
Not really, there are some naturally occuring 5th level RTGs in the wild, dats what some farmers tell me. Its only later when they took poor quality xbacks to breed with the rtgs to maintain qc for the xbacks.
This is a truthful answer. Always judge the aro itself. Many branded aros with fanciful names have turn out otherwise.I see quality based on the fish itself, not the farms .
Soon Classic RTGs will be hard to come by. Every RTG will soon be HBRTG.What is your definition of High Backs???
You are right, RTVGs have 5th level. In fact most RTGs have some shine on the 5th level.
For us here in Malaysia, we would want to think of HBs as a hybrid between low quality MGs and RTGs.
And some of us here has gone back to basics. I prefer old school RTGs with low shine but intense gold colouration and red fins in contrast to very dark top.
I love these colours compared to some hybrids which has high shine but poor color intensity. Not all but generally seen to be a washed out MG
Aww I thought the farm would keep tabs on it so the stocks would get better and better. I guess we have a bunch of hybrids and nothing is 100% certain if its pure breed or not.
What is your definition of High Backs???
You are right, RTVGs have 5th level. In fact most RTGs have some shine on the 5th level.
For us here in Malaysia, we would want to think of HBs as a hybrid between low quality MGs and RTGs.
And some of us here has gone back to basics. I prefer old school RTGs with low shine but intense gold colouration and red fins in contrast to very dark top.
I love these colours compared to some hybrids which has high shine but poor color intensity. Not all but generally seen to be a washed out MG
Ya. they keep stock of their hybrid fish. But let me emphasize. Its hard to ensure that all the fishes in the pond are all gold base, or all are blue base. Most of the time they are mixed up. So if the brooder has a more blue based, the fry is normally sold as blue based, if the brooder has more of a gold base or gold shine, the fry is sold as a gold base. As for QC, in general a farm will keep a portion of its fry of a higher quality for future breeding. So that is what they call selective breeding. There are alot of tricks of the trade which even i don't know and they won't tell me coz its the farms livelihood. But its really not as high tech as you guys think it is. Of course, i know its hard to rationalise this fact.
When they start off a pond, don't they first select all the fishes within the pond to be blue base xbacks and some gold core when they aquire the fish so that it ensure that the fry would be blue base as to suppose other type of xbacks? If 2 parent fish thats blue base the fry would intuitively be blue base right? At least a high percentage will be blue base since not 100% of the top gene will be displayed.
When the farm started, if they ensure all the pond is filled with fishes thats the same type then it should be well down to this generation we benefit the quality blood lines.
Also couldn't the farm scan the female fish when they paired up so they would have a record to make things even more accurate?
Guess the farm isn't really that high tech huh?
I think there are no true RTG's left.
I have been searching for a pure RTG for the last 8 years.
I have only seen pictures of a couple.
NO ***NONE*** 5th level shine. at all.. period..
complete 4th row..
looks amazing, and you really can tell the difference compared to all the hybrid highbacks..
I was told, (correct me if im wrong) that in the 80's everyone just considered them gold and red, all the pure rtg's were put in ponds with xbacks..
by the time the hobby was really spreading in the 90's, there was no more pure rtg's available for sale.
I also agree, most highback rtg's have a lower gold intensity then more pure rtg's, however a lot of that could be upbringing, water, food ect.. I can't say for sure its cross genetics.
love to hear more input on this.
I guess the question is do the farm even know the mother aro? Or do they just all base it from the brooder?
Not really, unless it was possible to recognise each and every fish. Some people like remember each fish because of a specific trait.
yup. the old school rtgs actually have sharper shine as compared to even some xbacks. But at the end of the day, the gold shade of a xback and a rtg can be easily differentiated when they are side by side.